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When a rare viral disorder put her at death's door, Liverpool's Pixey knew it was time to start living her dreams. Ahead of the release of her new mini-LP 'Dreams, Pains and Paper Planes', a collection of songs that shows her breadth as an artist, The Forty-Five meets Pixey to get the lowdown on its creation.
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hi i'm riann from 45 and today i'm
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joined by pixie hi pixie how are you
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hey i'm good thank you how are you i'm
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great thank you um you're joining me to
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talk today about your new mini album
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dreams pain and paper planes um before
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we start talking about that though i
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wanted to kind of go back a little bit
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to the beginning of your musical journey
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um so you started making music after you
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were really sick and you nearly died um
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but i was wondering kind of how long
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before that happened did you have this
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dream of becoming a musician and doing
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music as like a job
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i don't honestly like before that
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happened i don't think
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that was like ever an option at all like
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it didn't even cross my mind that it was
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doable as anything more than just
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i guess like having a bash on the piano
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after school
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so you know and i didn't even play the
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guitar so it really was not
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it was just not an option at all for me
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until after that experience
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eh and i think i just had like the
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realization that you know
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life's
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incredibly fragile and you don't
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a second chance usually so i felt very
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humbled to have a second chance
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yeah why did you think that you couldn't
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do music before that happened
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oh basically i just like had the the
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worst
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um stage fright
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and nervousness about
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performing and around performing i used
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to get so nervous that like i wouldn't
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sleep
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if i had
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before i remember playing the piano for
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this college performance with my best
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friend
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and um i was so nervous before i didn't
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sleep for like two days and then
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literally was physically shaken when i
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went on stage like trying to play the
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piano i remember just thinking like this
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is not pleasant this is one time
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but then i think i understood i guess
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as the music took off after my illness
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and that stage fright something that can
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definitely be
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managed and it's not like a death now
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and
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a death toll on your career that makes
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sense
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like you can't
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learn to live with it and also
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um
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you get used to being on stage and
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interacting with audiences makes it much
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easier
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yeah how long did it kind of take you to
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get used to or like to be able to deal
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with the sage right then
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um i only really got over it i think by
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the end of the alfie temperament tour
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like i mean i still get nerves every
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time i go i mean to be honest it kind of
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takes and chooses its moments sometimes
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when i think i'll be really nervous
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playing into a crowd of like 2 000
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people i'm literally as calm as anything
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and then other times when i've got like
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an intimate set to like six people
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i'm like
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breaking it
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it doesn't really make any lot of sense
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but it's very normal like i've come to
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realize you know i'm not the only one
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who suffers with it um
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and
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i think just the more you do something
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the more you i guess become desensitized
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to the situation and you can get over it
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oh yeah that was what put me off i guess
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going into music for a very long time
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um
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yeah yeah that's fair enough it's not a
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nice feeling
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so when you recovered from your illness
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when you actually started trying to make
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your own music and uh do this what was
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that kind of like for you do you
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remember the feeling for example of like
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finishing writing your first song
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yeah i remember
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because i was kind of i guess a little
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bit conventionally older to get into it
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i was 21 when i started
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playing the guitar properly and writing
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which kind of happened at the same time
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i remember just being in my bedroom
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because basically i was pretty much like
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housebound while i was recovering
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and i was so bored
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because it's not what you can do it's
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talking about gym it was like my mini my
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personal lockdown
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i remember just being in there like well
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what should i do let's
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i'll try and loop something so remember
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like looping this little
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guitar if and programming the like most
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basic piece thing i've ever programmed
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and and i'm just listening to her over
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and over again i was like oh that's so
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cool like i made that and i wrote those
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lyrics
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and and then i remember showing it to me
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mom i was like
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what do you think of this
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it's great
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there's something so i was looking on
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bbc introducing it was like
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your track might not be played for like
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six months or something because
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obviously they have a lot of tracks i
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was like
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now and then it got played on the radio
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like the next week which was so nice and
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it was such a confidence boost
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so that's really how i sort of
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got into it properly
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um how would you say that kind of brush
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with depth that you had changed your
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mindset and how that kind of feeds into
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the music that you make and kind of your
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i guess outlook on your career in music
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it completely changed everything to be
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honest before that i had like
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no
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i guess no real
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drive to actually pursue something that
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i enjoyed it's kind of hammered into me
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i guess through school that you know
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it wasn't exactly the most
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creative what's the word i mean in some
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senses a lot of people along the way
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were like really supportive of like me
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doing music but only really as a hobby i
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guess it never really felt
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like a career but after
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that experience like when you actually
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are faced with the fact that you are
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actually gonna die it's the weirdest
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thing because you are just confronted
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with everything
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that you wish well i was anyway i was
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confronted with everything i wish i'd
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done
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and then was thinking about the reasons
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that'll help me back
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and when when i was recovering i was
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thinking like you know just because
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you're shy or because you're a bit
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underconfident
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you know doesn't mean that you can't you
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can't do those things
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and
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and the more i did it the more people
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were like it was the only thing i feel
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like i've ever done that actually
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you know
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has been
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i guess good
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like
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responded to something that i've created
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and it's like
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it's incredibly
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i guess validating
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um
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but at the same time like i would never
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without that experience i would never
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have
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understood i guess how time-sensitive
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everything is and
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that you know things can just like
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change in an instant
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um and until they do you'll put
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everything off and procrastinate and
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wait because you're like i do know
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when i've you know when i've saved some
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money or when i've got a job then i'll
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like be you know whatever
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i'm very fortunate that you know with
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the time that i had and with the support
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that i had i was kind of able to have a
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second chance at what i wanted to do so
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yeah i kind of gave a new sort of like
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lens on
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on how to view
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life and i guess time as well
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do you think that experience also kind
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of like frees you from the kind of i
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guess the noise that surrounds music
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like achievements and streaming numbers
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and things like that too
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absolutely i think like
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the only time i started caring about
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that stuff was when i started actually
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like
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you know getting somewhere and then i
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was like oh but that person's doing
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better than me and whatnot but then i
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have to remind myself i didn't go into
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writing music for that i'm not you know
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i now i want to be successful because i
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realize
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it's actually doing something but it's
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definitely not the defining
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uh
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like drive for what i'm doing
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i mean you know
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you can sit there and
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look at numbers and
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and like
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i guess your reach
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but at the end of the day
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it's actually incredibly
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i think for anyone impressive just to
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reach like
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20 people or 30 people and if that means
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something to them you know
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you've outdone a thousand
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hundred 000 streams of people that just
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don't really
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engage with it you know so i think it's
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all about like the people can get how
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it's consumed and you can't take them
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numbers with you when you go
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yeah
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all you can take is that you made a
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difference or like that you did it for
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yourself you know when you're in your
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deathbed you're not going to care that
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you've got like
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a load of streams and no one actually
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you know engages
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with young music
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so i think
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it's really good to have like a lovely i
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guess like demographic of people who are
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consuming your music and for it to mean
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to them that's the main thing
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absolutely um before you started trying
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to do music on what job or career were
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you kind of aiming for you studied
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english literature at uni right oh my
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gosh like i scraped by that degree
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like
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your your writing and stuff i'm sure it
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does but tell you what like you can
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speak to my lecturers i was a nightmare
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like
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same with college i had the lowest
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tendons out for anyone i don't think it
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was ever meant for me like the academic
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lifestyle
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but um i think i just got through it
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because like my mum was so
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i guess she really wanted me to have a
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degree and my dad was like the first
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person in his family to get a degree so
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he was very much like you need this
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um
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yeah so then i just went into a career
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of music you know obviously like
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what my parents wanted but um
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i'd say like you know i worked in
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hospitality
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pretty much up until the moment i was
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just before the moment i was like
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actually considering to do music
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properly so even though i got my degree
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i wasn't finding it like you know easy
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to get any jobs or anything and to be
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honest like i never really saw myself in
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a you know i guess you'd call like a
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proper job i just you know i don't think
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i'm
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i have to be if i'm committed to
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something it's because i really love it
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um i don't think i would have settled
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for anything
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less maybe in the future maybe if this
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all fails i'll go into something
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as you said
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you know
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but yeah at the time i was going into
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this i don't i really didn't have
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anything else
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other than like maybe working in a
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coffee shop or like a
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tea room or something like that
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so
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would you say that studying literature
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and like poetry and things like that has
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influenced the way that you write your
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lyrics at all
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do you know what i
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i think actually like lyricism in songs
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influences me more than like poetry i
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mean some poetry i love sylvia plath i
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think the way she writes her poetry is
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just like is
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breathtaking
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and i mean it probably has in some way i
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don't i can't sit here and say exactly
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if it has
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but i'd say yeah more like lyricism in
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songs and how songs are constructed is
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definitely what has influenced me more
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and how like narratives and concepts and
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whatnot are in
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like
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or written in in music i think that's
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definitely
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more so the influence than like maybe
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literature
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yeah fair enough um most of your career
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or your early career was kind of in
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lockdown when you got signed to the
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chess club and releasing your first uh
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songs and singles um how has it been
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kind of coming out of that existence as
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like a very kind of online uh musician
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like in your bedroom to being in the
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real world a bit more making like making
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friends with other artists and playing
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live and things like that
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it's like it's such a strange feeling
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because before lockdown i was still
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playing a bit as pixie
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but it was like
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it was so different and i was playing to
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like maybe like 10 people down the local
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like like the local venues and stuff and
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there's nothing wrong with that but like
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then coming back
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to honestly like three times the size
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of like those crowds and people who
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actually have listened to the music
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which is something i'd never experienced
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before and
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it was totally surreal and like kind of
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gave me a weird sense of imposter
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syndrome like i felt like i've just been
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like picked up and placed in this
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like industry and like meeting artists
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who who knew me who i listened to their
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music when i was like a teenager
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or like people who i listen to now and
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they're like oh yeah pixie like
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love your music or you know
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it's just
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it's so
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i'm so grateful like it's really
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humbling
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and but also like totally surreal like i
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met ola garland and she came up and said
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hi to me and i was like
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how do you know who i am
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like the amazons as well it's just
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i've really enjoyed being on the
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festival circuit like meeting so many
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musicians this year
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because everyone's just so lovely
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and
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and so it's so exciting like it's kind
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of yeah a bit surreal when
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i'm like sat next to like inhaler or
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something i'm like i listened
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it's really nuts
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you have just wrapped up your first full
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festival season how has that been for
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you kind of like moving around playing
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these different tents and fields every
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weekend and has it been like any
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particular highlights for you
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do you know that's been so fun like i've
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never had i mean this year was
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literally such a year of face it's like
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the first tour and then the first
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festival season
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and
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i mean festival season in particular
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are great because it's like
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it's like you go into a little party
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where all the artists that you know are
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playing and they all tend to play like
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similar festivals as well
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so
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get to meet and watch
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so many different people that you admire
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or that you just like
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have heard of and you just want to go
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and watch it and like check them out
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but it's so exciting like
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me and my band we just
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i guess we just loved every minute of it
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i mean sometimes it's a little stressful
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because it's like the case of the line
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check
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and so you
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have no idea what you're gonna sound
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like
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and then it's funny when you're a
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smaller artist because sometimes you get
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put on on like a sunday at one where
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everyone's literally hanging out their
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arse and they're in the car
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or you get like an amazing sock which is
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like a saturday and
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like in the early sort of evening late
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afternoon where everyone's just having
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the best time and honestly every crowd
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was
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was so nice
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um
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and
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you know people came out of their way in
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the festival to come and watch me which
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i was just like that's so cool
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like i
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found festivals and you know
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every person that comes to my gig or
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like that comes to my show i just love
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every single one of them i can't tell
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you how much it means
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to me like to stand there in a crowd
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when you have no idea what to expect and
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then people are there sing along and
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stuff it's it's really mad
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do you have any kind of dreams for next
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festival season of any places that you
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really want to play
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oh yeah glasses i think
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i know that's probably the most
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like
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i guess it's it's a very valid dream
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like i think
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playing at dean's class for me twice
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and both times it's just my like
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absolute favorite festival in the world
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it's just such a lovely loving
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vibe there
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and the range of music
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is just fantastic i mean to be a part of
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that would be
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would be an honor
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but yeah it's been my dream since i was
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like since i was watching on the telly
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when i was younger it's been my dream
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yeah well hopefully you can take it off
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next year then
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we'll see
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um
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how would you say that playing live and
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doing festivals and things like that has
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kind of changed your way that you're
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approaching songwriting if it has it all
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it really has do you know what i didn't
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when i first got back into gigan and
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everyone was like
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you know how do you write your songs for
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life it was something i'd never
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considered in my life before
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and from playing and also mainly just
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watching other bands and how they
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interact with the audiences and what in
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your tips and tricks that they use
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you know i'm understanding now i guess
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what would feel good if i was watching
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me in the audience so it's definitely
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kind of
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you know changing the way that i think
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about what i want to write and also what
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i enjoy
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playing as well i find it like
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you know sometimes when i've got these
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like slower groovy songs they're really
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great
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but i'm finding myself adapting
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what i'm writing or especially adapting
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my set to like really engage with the
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audience as well um which is something
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when i first went into i mean the first
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gig
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post lockdown it's so funny to think
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back on that one now
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thinking about how far i've come but um
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yeah i put my first like clapping
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sequence in
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that was the nerve-wracking thing like
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as far as katie was like she was begging
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me she's like lizzy you got to put this
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in i was like
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oh there's no way how awkward would it
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be if i [ __ ] up and no one
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that can happen is no one collapsed and
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i was like
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okay so remember the first time we did
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it i think i think we did it at
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shepherd's bush empire and there was
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like you know over a thousand people
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clapping back i just saw kate you're
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looking over at me and we were like oh
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yeah it was worth it
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are there any fans that you've been
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watching lately who have been inspiring
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you to work with your own performances
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well i think being on tour with alfie
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that like was hugely inspiring like
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watching him play and you know
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yeah watching him play was just like
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amazing for me and understanding how
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their set works and stuff that was like
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super
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i guess like
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it definitely transformed the way that i
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approached
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my gigs but i also love who else was i
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watching recently
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and who i thought was just amazing and
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really got the crowd going
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and
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oh i look savior actually i absolutely
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love watching savior i mean they were
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playing basically every festival that we
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were playing
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so i would just i think i watched the
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set like three times but i didn't got
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all like the way that they like
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constructed the set was just so cool
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and
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definitely take big inspiration from
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them
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yeah nice a good band to take
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inspiration from live definitely better
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um so dreams pain and paper planes is
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out very soon and you described as kind
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of like a broad overview of who you are
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as an artist
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why did you want to use this record to
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kind of explore lots of different styles
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and sounds and kind of show all these
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different angles of you
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you know what i think it was more of a
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happy accident than like a conscious
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choice i kind of had like
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all these songs i'd written it was
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actually not even supposed to be like a
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longer film project it was supposed to
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be another ep
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but then when i was trying to label they
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were like well you've got all this music
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and you know
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you're probably not going to feel the
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same way about this music when
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you go to like your next project
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so why don't we just make it a bigger
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thing and we'll just put more songs on
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it and
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and i chose what i thought my strongest
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songs at that point so um they just
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happened i guess to all kind of like
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genre bend but they've still got like my
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sound like it still sounds like me
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but it's kind of like i guess
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i guess the project wasn't you know it's
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not like a concept i didn't write it all
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at the same time you know it's not going
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to feel like an album it will feel more
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like i think more like a mixtape of
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anything
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and certainly has like
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kind of has like a beginning
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like a climax and an ending
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and
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but yeah i think it's just it's quite
20:08
like eclectic the sounds
20:10
in the mini lp
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um
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but
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i guess that kind of sums up what i've
20:16
kind of been doing anyway in just one
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bigger project
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but moving on i think
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from this um it will definitely be more
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of like a coherent
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well thought out like
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you know
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more consistent sound
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but i think for me this is just like
20:35
everything that i enjoy about writing
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and everything that i've enjoyed about
20:38
the last few projects just put into one
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bigger thing to give to give to
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everybody yeah do you know what kind of
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sound you want to kind of go deeper into
20:46
on the next project
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yeah i do but i don't want to like give
20:50
too much away
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that's fair
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definitely like
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i mean i'm already moving on from the lp
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it's not even out yeah
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you know
21:06
a well a concise con like constructed
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sort of
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marriage of sounds that i think have
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been
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have been definitely like dotted around
21:17
in my in my older stuff but i think
21:21
i bought this lp because it's like it's
21:23
everything that i can do
21:25
well
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so far
21:28
as i like a producer and a songwriter
21:31
i'm really excited for it to drop
21:32
actually there's a couple of songs on
21:34
there that are really close
21:35
to my heart so i hope everyone really
21:37
likes it
21:38
what ones are the ones that are most
21:40
important to you would you say
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there's a song called kids which
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i mean it's definitely more laid-back
21:48
but i don't know i i think it's just one
21:50
of my
21:52
one of my favorites
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um
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on the on the mini lp i'm really excited
21:57
for people to hear that one
21:58
um and also there's one called uh so
22:01
just smile and i think that's like
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i wrote that when i was like feeling
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like in a really weird place so i think
22:10
i'm hoping that it will make sense for a
22:12
lot of people listening to it as well um
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those two are actually the ones that i
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wanted to talk to you about um which is
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good coincidence um such a smile i was
22:21
wondering who you were talking or who
22:24
you're singing to on that song
22:26
you know what i'm saying to myself
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um i think i wrote it because i was
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feeling
22:32
you know it's kind of like a love letter
22:34
just
22:36
not to take things
22:38
so seriously all the time
22:40
and also to embrace those like really
22:43
i guess those dark feelings and i wanted
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to put it
22:46
i wanted to package it off i think
22:48
that's there's a common theme throughout
22:49
this lp actually which is like packaging
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up
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like
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darker feelings
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with like upbeat
22:57
great beats and kind of like not you
22:59
know what you would kind of associate
23:01
with
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that kind of the
23:04
i guess message in a song
23:06
and because it talks about some really
23:08
like dark feelings in that in that
23:10
particular song
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and but yeah it's just it's when i wrote
23:14
it i wanted to listen back to it when i
23:16
was feeling those feelings again and
23:18
just kind of understand you know
23:21
how that it's okay and when i'm in my
23:23
bet frames mind
23:25
writing that song was was really like
23:27
therapeutic for me
23:29
um
23:30
you know i have this like thing if i get
23:33
if i get really low or if i get really
23:34
down or if things are getting a bit too
23:36
much
23:37
where i imagine like a wiser older
23:38
version of myself speaking back to me
23:41
and it kind of helps me
23:43
um manage situations and i think that
23:45
song was like a manifestation of that
23:47
where i wanted to tap into that sort of
23:50
like
23:51
older wiser version of myself that could
23:53
give me advice like what would i say if
23:56
i was like looking back on this now and
23:58
that's kind of what
24:00
that song encapsulates i think
24:02
yeah it does feel very kind of
24:03
reassuring and encouraging i think
24:06
it's good yeah
24:07
i don't want to like
24:08
shy away from sort of using words that
24:12
you know
24:13
that kind of like talk about
24:15
you know
24:16
life-ending thoughts and things like
24:18
that
24:18
because
24:20
it's so common and it's so like
24:23
weirdly taboo and i don't i just have
24:25
never understood
24:27
the kind of
24:29
i guess
24:30
the strange stigma around those
24:33
particular words i mean
24:36
i think it's really it's good to
24:39
use them
24:40
um
24:42
i guess like even just casually because
24:44
it's like you know it's okay to feel
24:45
that you need to talk about it it's fine
24:48
and also you know
24:51
yeah i think that's wrong
24:54
i get that kind of like helps remove the
24:56
stigma and makes people more open i
24:58
guess and be able to like seek help if
25:00
they need it
25:02
definitely and you know i think like
25:04
packaging it off
25:06
or like
25:07
putting it around a song that doesn't
25:08
necessarily sound like it's gonna talk
25:10
about those things
25:12
um
25:13
is kind of like taking the power back in
25:16
in a way i don't know like for me if i
25:18
listen to a really sad song when i'm
25:20
feeling down i'm like
25:22
sometimes i do it just because it feels
25:23
cathartic but
25:26
it's
25:27
like empowering myself in that time of
25:30
need
25:32
yeah i get that
25:33
um and with kids as well to me it kind
25:35
of sounds like a song about like the
25:37
anxieties and insecurities i guess of
25:39
your generation is that what you would
25:41
say it's about that's exactly what it's
25:43
about like
25:45
you know i wrote that
25:47
i think everyone like
25:49
about a year ago i mean it was just
25:50
coming off the back of the pandemic
25:54
and it's kind of the tune itself is
25:56
quite like nihilistic
25:58
it's kind of like you know i didn't ask
26:00
to be born into this world
26:04
um
26:05
i wanted it to
26:07
you know
26:08
i mean
26:09
loads of artists especially a feeling
26:11
like
26:12
you've got to be
26:14
more than just a writer you gotta be
26:15
more than just a musician
26:17
and it was kind of manifesting those
26:19
feelings
26:20
um
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also
26:23
you know i guess the state of the world
26:25
at the moment is pretty like
26:28
anxiety fueling and i think it's just
26:31
that kind of like
26:33
feeling of like what what are we
26:34
supposed to do what are we meant to do
26:36
like what you want us to do in this if
26:38
it's going to be like this
26:39
um
26:41
yeah it just got pretty nihilistic to be
26:43
honest i was right
26:44
because i was feeling
26:46
stupid
26:47
like a lot of people are i think
26:49
yeah do you think that music and artists
26:51
can kind of help change that with their
26:53
songs
26:54
yeah i definitely think you know life
26:57
can imitate art and i think
26:59
if you're
27:01
you know
27:02
writing about something
27:04
it kind of gives
27:06
these situations a certain validation
27:09
for people listening so you know if
27:10
you're a kid and you can't make sense of
27:12
the world
27:13
and you know don't particularly feel
27:14
like you have anyone to talk to about it
27:16
i think music can be a really nice place
27:18
to sort of hide away and make sense of
27:19
those feelings and
27:22
and i you know i think like that anxiety
27:24
around like what who we supposed to be
27:26
what we're supposed to do the world just
27:27
feels so incredibly like
27:30
complicated and
27:31
you know it's the first time that i felt
27:33
that way after my illness kind of like
27:35
surviving there and then
27:37
having that sort of existential crisis
27:39
of like okay i survived like now
27:41
now
27:42
um so i wasn't really seeing like the
27:44
beauty in life when i wrote that song to
27:46
be honest but i think
27:48
yeah it can be
27:49
it can be such an a nice hideaway for
27:52
people who are struggling with making
27:54
sense of what's going on around them i
27:56
think knowing that sort of talking to
27:58
you
27:59
one and also like voicing
28:03
your feelings um in a different kind of
28:06
way other than in your own head
28:08
yeah absolutely
28:10
um so after this mini album is released
28:12
what is next for you what have you got
28:13
coming up for the rest of the year
28:16
um
28:17
so i think it's like
28:19
i'm not entirely sure
28:21
in terms of what's confirmed and things
28:22
like that i'm definitely going to be
28:24
doing like a few odd gigs i don't know
28:26
if i'm allowed to say which ones yeah
28:29
but
28:30
i'm already working on the next project
28:33
i have been for months now
28:35
and i love i love writing so much
28:38
and
28:39
hopefully go on another tour that would
28:41
be amazing
28:44
but for now just like
28:46
focusing on the next project
28:48
and
28:49
i feel like i'm missing something really
28:50
major here like you know
28:53
fine
28:54
she should have said that but i can't
28:56
remember right now what exactly is going
28:58
on
28:59
mainly lots of things though
29:01
yeah lots of very busy
29:05
nice well good luck with this mini album
29:07
thank you so much for talking to me
29:08
today fixie thank you so much
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