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Phoebe Green on moving on from trauma, her new pop direction and new album 'Lucky Me'
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Feb 9, 2025
Phoebe Green's debut album 'Lucky Me' is one of the year's most accomplished indie-pop records. For this episode of In Depth, we chat to the Lancashire artist about writing through trauma, her new pop sound and touring with Self Esteem. For this and more interviews, visit https://www.thefortyfive.com Follow us on Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/the_forty_five/
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hi i'm rhianne daley from 45 and today
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i'm joined by phoebe green hi phoebe how
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are you
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i'm good thank you how are you good
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thank you
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um it's been almost a week since you
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released your new album lucky me
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yeah so far
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it's been amazing it's very overwhelming
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like i don't really know what i expected
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but
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yeah it's been quite pleasantly
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surprising to see how much especially
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love from like press it's got that's
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what i didn't like expect as much off
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but it's been insane
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yeah you were talking before kind of
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like in the run up to it about how
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scheduled because it is quite personal
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it has a lot of like your deepest
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thoughts and feelings on it has it been
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as scary as you expected it to be
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um
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no
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no it hasn't like i think um people have
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been very reassuring and
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understanding i think i feel way more
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connected
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to my audience now because i think
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there's actually way more of a shared
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experience than i initially
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realized and i think i was very
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reluctant to write about
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such
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specifics
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in terms of like what i've experienced
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because i thought like i was scared like
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alienate people or people wouldn't be
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able to connect with it but i realized
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like
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people actually
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empathize more like the more specific
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you are so it's yeah it's been amazing
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has that kind of emboldened you to do
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more of that and being more specific on
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the next stuff that you write and
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release
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yeah definitely i think so because i
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know that
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i
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love when artists are like super upfront
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about things so i think yeah there's a
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lot of things that have just definitely
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solidified
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my
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intentions to keep doing this so
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uh this album is kind of turning your
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lens more on yourself and your
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relationship with you instead of other
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people um when you first started writing
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like that was that kind of like a bit of
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a process to get used to or to kind of
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allow yourself to open up fully in that
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way
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it was it was really strange because
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like
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i think it wasn't necessarily
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intentional it was just
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like
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a pro a product like of my
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environment at the time because i guess
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like
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i didn't start writing in lockdown but
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all of the things i was experiencing
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were kind of like i was processing them
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during lockdown um
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and then when that eventually when i was
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free
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that's when i actually started like
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dissecting these experiences and
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actually wanting to vocalize them but i
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think that because i was in like such an
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isolation so was everyone um
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that i wasn't really thinking about
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interacting with people or
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the way i was perceiving my
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relationships at all because
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there didn't seem to be any like i felt
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so detached from everyone that
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that wasn't the material i was kind of
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naturally
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creating so
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yeah i think i just ended up
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writing about everything that was on my
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mind that was super internal so
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you find that usually like in normal
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times that your inspiration would have
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come from like interactions or things
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that people said to you and stuff like
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that
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yeah definitely because i'm such
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an overthinker as it is and i will
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analyze every single social interaction
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to such an extent
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that like i felt like it came so
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naturally to me to write about it and
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it's way
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less vulnerable to be an observer like
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you don't have to really
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tap into anything
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to
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like
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think and talk about other people like
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obviously it's still a projection of
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yourself but it's not
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like a
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yeah it doesn't feel as scary or
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exposing
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but
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yeah i think as well because when i was
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younger i wasn't as in touch with my
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feelings because i didn't have to be and
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i didn't want to be and i think as i get
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older that is something i'm really
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trying to work on like actually
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acknowledging the way i feel about
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things so
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it's been definitely helpful for me to
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be able to write about it
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um yeah i was going to say the album
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kind of feels like a journey of like
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learning how to open up and learning how
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to embrace emotion and what has that
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journey been like for you as you've been
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like going through it i mean it's been
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hell like
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i hate every second of it
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but i think
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it's definitely
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made me feel
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like a stronger sense of identity
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because
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i think when i was growing up i was so
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kind of embarrassed of how
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kind of like hysterical i was like i
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always felt things so deeply
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and
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because i wasn't really seeing that
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around me
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i felt like i had to kind of
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like shut it down like stop stop acting
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like that stop like
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crying at every film you watch like
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that's not
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it's not normal um
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so
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yeah i really kind of tried to numb
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my emotions for such a long time even
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though i didn't realize that's why
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people were drawn to me because like i
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could express things
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in ways that like a lot of people
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struggle to but then yeah i just went
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completely the other way
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never acknowledged my feelings never
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expressed them
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um
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and yeah just focus my attention onto
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other people so that i didn't have to
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deal with
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anything that was going on with me and
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then
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yeah i think whilst i've been
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really
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trying to just
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yeah focus on my emotions and tolerate
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them more than anything else like it's
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become such a part of my identity again
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to like just be a big
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feeler i'm a scorpio like is it so in my
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nature
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um
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yeah
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can't deny it
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though
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do you feel kind of more proud now to
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embrace that side of you and kind of
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just be like yeah this is who i am
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i think so like i still find it really
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challenging to be vulnerable
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i think like i find it easier
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to it's such a weird thing to say but
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like it seems so much more normal to
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express emotion when it's like about
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something external or like
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i think because especially with like
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mental illness as a whole like
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it's so easy to invalidate it because
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like you feel crazy obviously
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um
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so yeah it's easier to
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respond to things that aren't just in my
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head
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but i think
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it's nice to be able to validate myself
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now and be like okay i feel this way
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because of this and this and this and
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this and
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i'm not just like overreacting to
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everything like yeah
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how's sharing these songs and kind of
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seeing the reaction to it and people
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saying you know maybe they feel a
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similar way kind of made you feel uh
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less alone in your own feelings and your
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own mental health uh journey
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yeah definitely i think
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because
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i think
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again like in lockdown i was so
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i felt so alone and so kind of
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like no one was ever going to understand
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and that's why there's no point even
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talking about it i think
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now like
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yeah it's just become so apparent that
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so many people feel the same thing and
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i'm not [ __ ] special like
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it's kind of nice to know that like
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yeah yeah
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it's a good thing yeah what would you
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say given this album is so personal that
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is the biggest thing you've learned
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about yourself through making it
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um
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probably
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that like no matter how
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unbearable
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my emotions feel
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it
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makes me like a better person to myself
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and to other people
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if i acknowledge them and process them
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in a healthy way rather than
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bottling them up for other people's
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convenience
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and then
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just like exploding
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um and i think like especially with
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these songs like i don't even know if it
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was intentional at the time but the
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track listing is very much like
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each song is almost peeling back a layer
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um
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until i'm just like completely
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vulnerable and
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open with everything
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yeah
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i like that about it it does feel like
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uh like you're progressing as you kind
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of listen to it which is nice um did you
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kind of feel like you mentioned you were
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bottoming up emotions before as a way to
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kind of
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not or deal with them or not deal with
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them did you find that suppressing those
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feelings and those emotions kind of
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suppress you creatively as well
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definitely i oh my god i could not write
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for like
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i want to say like nearly a year
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because i
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well i literally wasn't feeling anything
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and i think
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that
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like that disconnection from
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my own kind of like mind and body
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meant that like there was literally
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nothing there was no material there was
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nothing for me to
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even don't talk about so
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yeah there was definitely nothing for me
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to write about or
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feel
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that like represented me in any way
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um
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so yeah like never never a good thing
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i would not recommend it
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when you stop suppressing things did you
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kind of feel like you're exploding with
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ideas then
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absolutely like once i started writing
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i've started writing um
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this album
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around a year ago and it was
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finished recorded
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by december by the end of december yeah
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like once i started like that was it and
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even now like
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i haven't been able to stop writing
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since which is such a good thing for me
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because i honestly like in that time
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that i couldn't write
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i thought that was it i genuinely
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convinced myself like it is over i'm
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never gonna feel again i don't want to
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feel again and i can't continue being a
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musician if that's the case
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i'm glad you managed to find a way out
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of that then
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very dramatic like it should be this
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should be a tv show
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very very depressed
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on this album you deal with things like
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guilt and fear and trauma but you also
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kind of balance it with this uh very
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self-aware thing of like knowing where
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you're privileged that you are
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privileged and you have that position in
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society
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why is it important for you to kind of
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acknowledge that privilege on on this
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album
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i think because like
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it's so
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it's so tricky to kind of
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navigate
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feeling
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bad
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like in your own head and validate your
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own emotions when
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circumstantially like
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why the [ __ ] would i have a problem like
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what is that um and i think i always
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felt just very embarrassed and very
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ashamed that like
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there is always someone worse off and
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like i do have it pretty good great
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upbringing love my family like
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everything
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yeah has been great for me growing up
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but
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that does not mean that
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things aren't gonna happen to you and
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aren't gonna
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ruin
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a lot of things that you have like
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worked to build for yourself so
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i guess like i needed to acknowledge it
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for myself so that i could stop
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invalidating everything that i'd gone
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through like despite the privilege but
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still
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it is important to
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yeah just know your privilege and know
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that
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yeah
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no i agree was there ever a point where
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like you kind of considered not
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releasing some of these songs because of
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that kind of like
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uh guilt of like having the privilege
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and feeling that you shouldn't be like
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feeling this way about things
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i think so yeah and i think that was a
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lot of
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a lot of the reason why i did kind
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of not want to release
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anything that was too
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emotional because it's like i didn't i
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don't like people feeling sorry for me
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and i think that's why i had it a lot
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with humor like in the songs like even
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the saddest ones i feel like there's
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always an element of like
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yeah but i'm still a [ __ ] like
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i feel like there has to be something to
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balance it out a bit but i think it's
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also just a big fear of vulnerability
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and
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yeah i think because
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because of like the trauma and all of
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that stuff like because i have
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been
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like a victim in a sense of like
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specific situations
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i've never wanted to be viewed as a
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victim like in any sense so i think
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that's
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yeah that's why i kind of try and like
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not acknowledge the sadness and like
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tell people yes it's chill like it's
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funny
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um you have the album title lucky me
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tattooed on your hand how long have you
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had that for
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um
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definitely less than a year
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and i can never remember what came first
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like but like i keep trying to think
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about it
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and i feel like
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i feel like the tattoo came first
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and then the song and then i was like it
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makes so much sense for the album to be
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called
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looking me because i feel like it's such
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a double-edged like it's half a joke
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but it's half like i actually am very
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lucky to still be here so
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yeah bit of both yeah why did you want
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to get that tattooed on your hand in the
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first place
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i think because like
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it is just a constant reminder like even
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if if i'm
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in my own head
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and
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like
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kind of experiencing
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like these episodes where i literally
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just think that like
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i don't know that i can't see out of
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like sad awful
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feelings
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um
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i can literally just be like oh my god
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like i'm fine it's kind of like a
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grounded thing like i feel like that
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sounds so like what whatever but it does
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like really bring me out of
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dark headspaces a lot of the time but
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then also like
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i do just think it's kind of funny
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it looks cool as well so
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exactly
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that's the whole point that's the only
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that's the only reason
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you have a few other tattoos would you
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say that they also kind of remind us to
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yourself about different things yeah
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definitely i've got this one wait can
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you see it yeah nothing changes if
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nothing changes
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that's the lyric from
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current in the club but like it's so i
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feel like it kind of is so
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cringe to like have my own lyrics
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tattooed
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i made a tick tock about this like
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i think it's
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like it means so much more because
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they're like thoughts that i've had
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based on experiences
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and they all have like a memory behind
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them like my mom says that's me all the
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time because she saw it on instagram
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and she was like phoebe like you really
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need to get out of these like habits of
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like
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self-sabotage and then like
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feeling guilty for self-sabotaging and
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then self-sabotaging again like if you
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do not change
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your behavior like the outcome is not
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going to change so
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you need to change something or
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nothing will change so
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that's a good one um
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yeah i feel like all my other ones are
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pretty significant i have mine all mine
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on my chest
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um just as like a reclaiming my body
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and like
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yeah i feel like they are all pretty
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significant
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i love that that's so nice
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um on this album uh the first song i
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think you wrote was clean uh how did
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that kind of kick start the rest of the
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record
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it's so weird because of all the songs i
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feel like that one
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is so like different
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the only one that has like um
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it's the only one i wrote on guitar off
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the whole album
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um i think it was probably the first one
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it was the first time i kind of like
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felt inspired to write about something
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um
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because yeah it was the only thing i was
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really experiencing
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um
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but yeah i feel like it set the tone of
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like vulnerability it's like right we're
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gonna just talk about it we're just
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gonna do it like
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um
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so yeah but i think
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as soon as i got that song out of the
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way
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i was able to write the songs i wanted
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this album to be because
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i think i was so intent on writing
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like radio singles because i was like i
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need to do that like i haven't really
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done that yet or i've kind of resisted
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it a bit because i was like oh well i
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want my songs to be like alternative and
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like and then i was kind of just like
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like you need to you need to try you
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need to at least try so i couldn't write
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these would be happy songs until i got
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like the sad one off my chest
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um
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so yeah i feel like if anything
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it didn't necessarily inspire them but
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it like cleared the way for the rest of
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them to happen
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nice that's like the kind of the rain
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clearing the way for the sun to come out
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yeah exactly
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nice um kind of given that this album is
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about opening up and kind of learning to
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let go in a way what would you say is
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the song that had the biggest impact on
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you being able to do that in term
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whether that's like in the studio when
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you're writing or recording when you're
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playing live
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now that it's out
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i
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would say
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two different ones i think
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even though clean is like a sad song
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it's not really it wasn't really saying
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anything i'd never said before i think
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die die die emotionally really was like
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we are going to talk about the worst
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things that have ever happened to you
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and
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then everything's going to be easy like
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you write that and then
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it's done you don't need to like let it
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bleed into every other song i think
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that's what i was afraid of i was like
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once i open up about this
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what if it what if every song becomes
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about it um and that just wasn't the
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case like as soon as
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yeah as soon as i wrote that song i was
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like okay well
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that's not my whole life like i can
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write about like
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fun stuff too so
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um then i think writing make it easy
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was
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so important for me to do because
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it made me realize i can write like cool
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pop music and it doesn't have to involve
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a guitar and
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it doesn't have to be super dark either
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like
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yeah that was just the the song that
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kind of kick-started like
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the upbeat kind of new
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sonic environment for me to exist in
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what was that transition into pop kind
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of like for you because obviously before
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this album you were more known for indie
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songs and guitar songs um
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did you feel like you couldn't do pop
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before that before this album
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yeah kind of because i think
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even going back to the whole like
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me not
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acknowledging
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emotions like i
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thought
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that
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pop would be too exposing like if
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there's nothing to hide behind
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um
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yeah that really terrified me because i
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think especially when making kind of
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like alternative indie music like there
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are so many sonic elements that can
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disguise like how vulnerable the actual
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subject matter is so i think i was super
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afraid of pop because i was like well if
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i do pop it kind of all becomes about me
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and what i'm saying
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um but yeah luckily i got to the place
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where i was like well
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this is a good thing because i actually
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know who i am now i know how to express
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myself so
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the music really
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like emphasizes and complements that
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rather than
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like conceals it
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was there kind of an element of other
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people's attitudes to pop music as well
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kind of making you hesitate about doing
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more of that sound
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yeah i think so because i mean
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as much as i love every single one of
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the indie bands i'm friends with
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like
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that was very much what i was surrounded
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by and everyone doing pretty alternative
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like indie or like post punk um or just
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straight up punk
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um and i was kind of like i just wanna
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i just wanna like not hear a guitar for
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a while
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like you're all great but
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um so yeah it was kind of intimidating
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because i was like what if no one comes
21:37
to my gigs like what if none of my
21:40
friends like my music but
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they've all literally been like this is
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what you were meant to do like this
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suits you so well and it's so good and
21:47
just because it's different
21:49
to what other people are doing doesn't
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make it like
21:53
bad
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or even if it's i've learned this as
21:56
well like
21:57
i've really learned to
21:59
acknowledge that if someone doesn't like
22:00
something it doesn't mean it's bad like
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it is
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such a taste thing and that's
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fine like
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yeah if you don't like something it
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doesn't mean that they're doing
22:10
something wrong it's just
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just preference yes exactly music is
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subjective
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exactly
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who would you say are the pop artists
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that you look up to the most at the
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moment
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oh
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very good question
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i think i mean
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it's hard because i don't even want to i
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was going to say i don't want to
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pigeonhole anyone
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but it's like pop music is probably the
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broadest
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the broadest uh genre um
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i think most recently moona
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honestly
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they just
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write the most perfect pop songs
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that
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are
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still vulnerable
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still really cool and
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yeah are just really fun and i think
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that really
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made me feel able to embrace it and not
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be like
23:05
not find it cringy like that's such a
23:07
non-cringe band like
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yeah but obviously there are so
23:12
there are so many
23:14
but my head always blanks whenever
23:18
that's fair i was gonna say those kind
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of shades of caroline police and charlie
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yeah yes yes yes yeah of course
23:24
absolutely i love i love caroline and
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like
23:28
and well i love both of them and i love
23:31
how
23:32
um
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auto-tune on a vocal can make it sound
23:36
like an instrument and i really i needed
23:39
to do that on this album i was like
23:42
yeah especially on like break my heart
23:45
and make it easy i think they're the
23:46
main two and
23:48
yeah i just love having like a crazy
23:51
tuned vocal line
23:52
that yeah just becomes an instrument in
23:54
itself like it sounds so good
23:56
so yeah yeah definitely inspired
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nice you're also taught with self-esteem
24:03
um earlier this year um what did you
24:06
kind of take away from that experience
24:07
on being of being on top of that
24:10
so many things
24:12
so so many things i think um
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being so
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unapologetically yourself is
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so terrifying
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um
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especially when
24:26
like the music exposes so much already
24:28
kind of not shying away from that and
24:31
being bold about it and also
24:34
bringing humor to it and
24:37
like just being super connected to the
24:38
audience because i think i was so
24:40
tempted to especially with singing these
24:42
songs i was like right i
24:44
i kind of can't talk to the audience or
24:46
i have to have my eyes closed the whole
24:47
time because it's so scary but like
24:49
rebecca is so [ __ ]
24:52
on it like it's so good um
24:56
but even like the band as a whole like
24:59
it was so
25:01
inspiring to see people love each other
25:03
so much and still be so professional and
25:07
yeah it was just such an incredible
25:08
thought like me and my whole band were
25:10
just watching them every single night
25:12
like
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wow
25:14
insane
25:16
you have your big headline tour coming
25:18
up uh later this year
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how are you feeling about that first
25:22
then i was scared
25:24
i'm so scared
25:26
like yeah i think probably the most
25:29
scared i've ever been for anything
25:31
like more so than releasing the album
25:34
just kind of
25:35
because i'm so sensitive
25:37
it's like
25:39
seeing people's
25:41
reactions in real time
25:43
in my face
25:44
is so scary to me
25:47
but also like
25:48
i know that that's probably going to be
25:49
one of the most rewarding things
25:52
ever
25:53
but yeah i'm just scared because i think
25:55
the level of responsibility
25:57
a headline tour brings is something i've
25:59
never experienced before
26:01
um
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like it's my
26:04
it's my thing
26:07
that's so scary and also
26:10
like sorry um yeah i changed so much and
26:14
i'm scared i'm gonna make all these like
26:15
aesthetic
26:16
decisions
26:18
or just any decision and then it'll get
26:20
to it i'll be like i [ __ ] hate this
26:26
it'll be fine
26:27
hopefully not hopefully not
26:30
what can people expect from it then what
26:31
are you kind of planning at the moment
26:33
for the tour
26:35
um
26:36
i definitely am taking a lot of time
26:40
on trying to figure out support acts
26:43
because
26:44
i want there to be like a lot of
26:45
representation
26:47
i don't want it to be like
26:48
the same gig everyone has been to a
26:51
million times
26:52
um
26:55
yeah i just want it to be a really
26:57
interesting lineup that like
26:59
will
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appeal to like different tastes but also
27:04
have a consistency um
27:08
yeah that's something i'm thinking about
27:09
a lot and probably spending way too much
27:10
time
27:11
thinking about but i want it to be
27:13
really special um
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what else
27:17
i think like i want the set to be
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a bit
27:23
theatrical
27:25
but that i'm like i
27:27
i do not have millions and millions of
27:28
pounds
27:31
i can't go crazy with this but i just
27:33
want the orange inflatable chair to be
27:36
involved that's on like all of the press
27:38
images i need that pair i need it it's
27:41
my comfort chair
27:43
you're gonna have a little sit down on
27:45
stage if things get a bit too much
27:46
i'll move it
27:49
nice well i hope this all goes well
27:50
thank you so much for talking thank you
27:52
thanks for having me enjoy the rest of
27:54
your day youtube bye
27:57
bye
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